Elm Court Outdoor and Indoor Boot Sales
|Date||Field good cause||Snack Bar good cause||Pitch fees (pitches)||Buyers gate|
|26 April||1st Little Heath & PB Scouts||1st Northaw Scouts||£420 (35)||£530 (heavy rain forecast)|
|10 May||5th PB Brownies||PB Children with Special Needs Group||£348 (29)||£320 (heavy rain forecast and did!)|
|24 May||1st Cuffley Scouts||Green Room Theatre Company||£192 (16)||£199 (heavy rain forecast again!!)|
|7 June||3rd Potters Bar Scouts||Cats Protection||£346 (29)||£180 (indoors - rain storms forecast)|
|21 June||PB Lifesaving & Hertsmere Canoe Club||Mount Grace School||£2316 (193)||£814 (hot sunny day)|
|5 July||International Scouting||North Mymms Youth Project||£576 (48)||£406 (heavy rain forecast)|
|19 July||5 Potters Bar Scouts||Mount Grace PTFA||£516 (43)||£218 (morning rain. Rainstorms forecast)|
|2 Aug||Herts Youth Connexions||Green Room Theatre Company||£1008 (84)||£520 (heavy showers forecast. Stayed dry)|
|16 Aug||Overseas Scout Trips||Warren Concert Party||£2400 (200)||£670|
|30 Aug||Barnet Open Door Project||Cats Protection|
|13 Sept||PB Air Cadets||Wayside Centre|
|27 Sept||Hertfordshire Showband||Warren Concert Party|
|11 Oct||4 PB Scouts||North Mymms Youth Project|
The first indoor sale of the following season is on 25 October 2014 - booking opens 29th September
Who is it in aid of?
Elm Court Youth and Community Centre, a registered charity, take most of the proceeds from the sellers fees (the £12). The money is used to maintain and enhance the Centre. The good cause staffing the gate and field keep the proceeds from the public (the 50p), early buyers (the £4), and a small proportion from the sellers fees. The good cause running the Snack Bars keep all their profits and a small proportion from the sellers fees. How Much Space Do I get?
The field can get pretty full, so to be fair to everyone we limit the pitch length to 6 metres (20 feet) - that's over 3 normal pasting tables end to end. If you want more space, then just let the field staff know, then you pay £1/metre over the 6 metre. Vans pay the standard £12 fee because they may want the same space as a car. If they want more then they pay the £1/metre extra. What if I Bring a Trailer
Trailers are charged extra to the £12 at the rate of £1/wheel on trailer. Why the maximum height limit of 6'6"?
We don't want greengrocers, butchers etc as this effects the local shops. We are a Community Centre after all, and most of the Community want to maintain their local shops, even if they don't always use them. Also heavier and bigger vans cause the field more damage. And on the entrance to the field we have a low tree, and the entrance to the Centre has a height restriction bar. Why the £4 fee for early buyers?
We find the sellers prefer time to set-up before the general public are allowed in. But then we found that some 'keen' buyers would pay the sellers car £12 fee, just to get in at the same time as the sellers. We often could not tell the difference between these bogus sellers and the genuine seller, so could not prevent this practice. So now we have formalised the £4 fee for early buyers. But please note we make no guarantee about how long in advance of the general public this will get you in. Does Elm Court supply tables?
No, please bring your own. Do I need to book?
No. We do not take bookings. If we're full, and this has only happened five times in 20 years, we give free entry vouchers for future sales to those we have to turn away.
What if it rains?
Unless the field is also waterlogged (see below), rain does not cause the sale to be cancelled. If it does rain during a sale, pitch fees are refunded at the rate of £3 for every 20 minutes of rain between 12 noon and 3pm to a maximum of £12. For example: a total of 19 minutes rain - no refund, a total of 21 minutes, £3 refund. Change may be required! Outdoor sales only. Tomís or Barbaraís decision is final! If rain looks likely, we also offer sellers space inside. Space inside is usually much more restricted for the £12 fee.
What if the field is waterlogged?
With a waterlogged field the sale will usually be cancelled (sometimes it will be moved indoors - see below). Sales are usually cancelled either the evening before or about 9am on the morning of the sale. We try to give as much notice as possible, but you must understand that the field can be dry until the Friday evening, then rain all night, and then be waterlogged in the morning. Phone 01707 659602 for 24hr info, but we prefer if you phone outside 9am to 1pm, Mon-Fri. We shall also try to update the web-site.
Do you move inside if the field is waterlogged?
Sometimes. With a waterlogged field the sale will usually be cancelled. This is because the field cannot be used for parking. So however sunny it is on the day, we cannot park enough cars. So we feel it is better to cancel than to have the chaos that insufficient parking would cause. There is an exception to this. If we can predict that the field is going to be waterlogged sufficiently well in advance that the press adverts can reflect this, then we will have an indoor sale, like we hold in the winter. If this is well publicised enough, then not nearly as many people turn up, and we can cope with the parking.
What can I sell?
All the normal car boot stuff provided it is legal.
And not the following:
Bottled, canned, and hot drinks and fresh food because the snack bar good cause have the monopoly.
'fun bangs' and water bombs because these cause a mess inside the centre.
Guns, including replicas and those that fire plastic pellets, and "weapon" knives because we disapprove and have caused problems.
Alcohol or tobacco because it is illegal without a licence - even if they are left over from a party!!
Where do we advertise?
Hendon Times, www.pottersbar.org, Potters Bar Community News, www.carbootjunction.co.uk, www.ukfayres.co.uk, www.boot-fairs.co.uk, www.yourbooty.co.uk.
It there a Question you still have, which you think should be answered here?
Then email us: email contact.
|Date||Field good cause||Snack Bar good cause||Pitch fees (pitches)||Buyers gate|
|6 April||3rd Potters Bar Scouts||Mount Grace School PTFA||£768(64)||£613 (Very Cold)|
|20 April||4th Potters Bar Scouts||PB Children with Special Needs Group||£1812 (151)||£760|
|4 May||Hertsmere Canoe Club||Mount Grace D of E expedition||£1800 (150)||£750 (heavy hail storm)|
|18 May||Hertfordshire Showband||Hertfordshire Showband||£1440 (120)||£850|
|1 June||Crusaders Youth Football Club||Silver Pheonix Explorer Scouts||£2052 (171)||£911|
|15 June||Herts Youth Connexions||Warren Concert Party||£1380 (115)||£720 Rain & wind forecast and got|
|29 June||PB Lifesaving Club||Green Room Theatre Company||£1800 (150)||£820|
|13 July||5th Potters Bar Scouts||Mount Grace PTFA||£1560(130)||£740 Very Hot|
|27 July||1st Little Heath & PB Scouts||Cats Protection||£1080 (90)||£840 Rain forecast|
|10 Aug||Barnet Open Door Project||Warren Concert Party||£2400 (200)||£720|
|24 Aug||Green Room Theatre Company||Cats Protection||£288 (24)||£170 rained all day so indoors|
|7 Sept||Cuffley Scouts||North Mymms Youth Project||£1320 (110)||£650|
|21 Sept||Potters Bar Air Cadets||Wayside Centre||£2160 (180)||£580|
|5 Oct||5th Potters Bar Brownies||PB Children with Special Needs||£1440 (120)||£770|
|19 Oct||North Mymms Youth Project||1st Northaw Scouts||£576 (48)||£270 (heavy rain at 1pm for an hour)|
These are held
between mid-October and Easter, alternate Saturdays. There are 48 stalls, and we usually get between 300 and 400 public.
There is a snack bar with seating, selling teas/coffees, burgers, sandwiches etc. Indoor Sales also known as Attic Sales
Indoors, alternate Saturdays between mid October and Easter, Outdoors rest of year.
Sellers are admitted from 11:45 am. Public are admitted from *1pm.
Stall for indoor sales cost £17 but must be booked
Public are charged 50p until 2.30pm. *But if they want to enter early, with the sellers, it is £5.
Indoor Dates for 2014/2015:
|25 October 2014||Good cause: TBA||stalls on sale from 29th September|
|8 November 2014||Good cause: TBA||stalls on sale from 29th September|
|22 November 2014||Good cause: TBA||stalls on sale from 29th September|
|6 December 2014||Good cause: TBA||stalls on sale from 5th September>|
|3 January 2015||Good cause: TBA||stalls on sale from from 24 November|
|17 January 2015||Good cause: TBA||stalls on sale from 24 November|
|31 January 2015||Good cause: TBA||stalls on sale from 24 November|
|14 February 2015||Good cause: TBA||stalls on sale from 24 November|
|28 February 2015||Good cause: TBA||stalls on sale from 24 November|
|14 March 2015||Good cause: TBA||>stalls on sale from 24 November|
|28 March 2015||Good cause: TBA||stalls on sale from 24 November|